been there done that....basically said doesnt want to deal with bloat,which can be controlled i explained and he knows that. Hes looking for just steady lean gains and strength,not to get noticably bigger. Also said he doesnt enjoy the feeling of coming off test for a few week. He does PCT and properly from what he tells me anyway. Also told him if thats what hes looking for theres other cycles he could run but has plenty of test,eq,and deca and doesnt want to order anything else since he strapped for the holidays. Hes a stubborn fuck so im just trying to get some opinions.